Comments on: The The Zine Volume 4 Issue 7 http://hscclub.net/2009/04/the-the-zine-volume-4-issue-7/ The Harding School Comic Club Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:44:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Konoha http://hscclub.net/2009/04/the-the-zine-volume-4-issue-7/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Konoha Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:26:07 +0000 http://hscclub.net/?p=734#comment-21 Reply to: anonymous says: April 24, 2009 at 6:52 pm I am sorry to bring this to your attention, but I had wanted to join your club, so I had prepared a rough draft story for your magazine. The problem is, when I showed it to a member of your club during one of my classes, he/she-I do not want to specify who it was for anonymities sake- not only rejected it, but insulted it, saying it wasn’t good etc. I no longer aspire to join your club, which I had admired up until this incident, and further, I used to read every issue of your publication, but will no longer read it… Again, I apologize for this and I wish your magazine luck. ------------------------------------- Sorry about that, I'm not able to recall if it was me or not--and I don't know who you are either. However, it is actually safer to show your work to a Club Officer rather than a Club Member. Club Officers are for sure an Editor of the the Zine. So whoever this member was might have insulted you without intentionally doing so, or purposely did so because of some unspeakable reason. I do hope you will come in one day. If you would like to retry showing your work to someone else from the club you can always find Konoha (me)--> Manee Thao, sophomore, or Rasheed Johnson (Max. Jay), senior?, Moomoo (I don't remember her real name, sorry), junior, and Gao (Kage), junior. It doesn't matter if you're good or not, just show up to have fun and learn new things. I hope we'll see you in the club one day, even if we won't know it's you. ^^ Reply to: anonymous says:
April 24, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I am sorry to bring this to your attention, but I had wanted to join your club, so I had prepared a rough draft story for your magazine.
The problem is, when I showed it to a member of your club during
one of my classes, he/she-I do not want to specify who it was for anonymities sake- not only rejected it, but insulted it, saying it wasn’t
good etc.
I no longer aspire to join your club, which I had admired up until this
incident, and further, I used to read every issue of your publication, but will
no longer read it… Again, I apologize for this and I wish your magazine luck.
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Sorry about that, I’m not able to recall if it was me or not–and I don’t know who you are either. However, it is actually safer to show your work to a Club Officer rather than a Club Member. Club Officers are for sure an Editor of the the Zine. So whoever this member was might have insulted you without intentionally doing so, or purposely did so because of some unspeakable reason. I do hope you will come in one day.
If you would like to retry showing your work to someone else from the club you can always find Konoha (me)–> Manee Thao, sophomore, or Rasheed Johnson (Max. Jay), senior?, Moomoo (I don’t remember her real name, sorry), junior, and Gao (Kage), junior.
It doesn’t matter if you’re good or not, just show up to have fun and learn new things. I hope we’ll see you in the club one day, even if we won’t know it’s you. ^^

]]> By: Andy http://hscclub.net/2009/04/the-the-zine-volume-4-issue-7/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Andy Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:04:39 +0000 http://hscclub.net/?p=734#comment-19 I'm sorry to hear this and will bring it up at the next club meeting. The creative process is always challenging, but the most terrifying aspect is the fear of how others see your work. I’m sorry you had a negative experience with this club member. Comic club is made up of individuals who each approach the world in their own unique way. Though you may have had a bad experience interacting with one club member I would still encourage you to come to a meeting or seek out the opinion of another club member. Within the club there are a variety of approaches to work and methods for helping others. I do not always approve the approaches of some club members, but am surprised by the novel direction in which they take things. Every contribution makes the club better. The club member in question may have been having a bad day or may not have an interest in the specifics of your work at this time. I assure you that this person is a valuable contributor in some way, but I am sorry that in this circumstance they were not helpful to you. I have been in the same situation as you numerous times. As an artist I put myself into my work and when that work is criticized it feels as if I am being criticized. In the harsher instances I feel intense shame, humiliation, fear, and anger. In that state it can be difficult to guide a critique to a positive outcome, but I encourage you to seek one. Your harshest critics can be made into an asset. Don’t let them merely dismiss your work by saying “it wasn’t good” ask them to be direct. What did they feel was not good about the work? Do they have ideas for improving the work? To tell you merely that your work is not good is often a symptom of jealousy or an attempt on the part of the critic to escape thinking deeply. If they are unwilling to talk details with you then disregard their comments. Maybe someday they will be inclined to take a more serious look at your work. If not, well, they have lost an opportunity. Thank you for not slandering individuals in this delicate situation; it shows strong character. Though this person may not have been at the top of their game in that moment I sense you have some respect for them. I hope that this incident can be made positive for everyone. Also if you get the chance I would like to read your draft. Please send it to admin@hscclub.net I’m sorry to hear this and will bring it up at the next club meeting.

The creative process is always challenging, but the most terrifying aspect is the fear of how others see your work. I’m sorry you had a negative experience with this club member.

Comic club is made up of individuals who each approach the world in their own unique way. Though you may have had a bad experience interacting with one club member I would still encourage you to come to a meeting or seek out the opinion of another club member. Within the club there are a variety of approaches to work and methods for helping others. I do not always approve the approaches of some club members, but am surprised by the novel direction in which they take things. Every contribution makes the club better.

The club member in question may have been having a bad day or may not have an interest in the specifics of your work at this time. I assure you that this person is a valuable contributor in some way, but I am sorry that in this circumstance they were not helpful to you.

I have been in the same situation as you numerous times. As an artist I put myself into my work and when that work is criticized it feels as if I am being criticized. In the harsher instances I feel intense shame, humiliation, fear, and anger. In that state it can be difficult to guide a critique to a positive outcome, but I encourage you to seek one.

Your harshest critics can be made into an asset. Don’t let them merely dismiss your work by saying “it wasn’t good” ask them to be direct. What did they feel was not good about the work? Do they have ideas for improving the work?

To tell you merely that your work is not good is often a symptom of jealousy or an attempt on the part of the critic to escape thinking deeply. If they are unwilling to talk details with you then disregard their comments. Maybe someday they will be inclined to take a more serious look at your work. If not, well, they have lost an opportunity.

Thank you for not slandering individuals in this delicate situation; it shows strong character. Though this person may not have been at the top of their game in that moment I sense you have some respect for them. I hope that this incident can be made positive for everyone.

Also if you get the chance I would like to read your draft. Please send it to admin@hscclub.net

]]> By: anonymous http://hscclub.net/2009/04/the-the-zine-volume-4-issue-7/comment-page-1/#comment-18 anonymous Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:52:29 +0000 http://hscclub.net/?p=734#comment-18 I am sorry to bring this to your attention, but I had wanted to join your club, so I had prepared a rough draft story for your magazine. The problem is, when I showed it to a member of your club during one of my classes, he/she-I do not want to specify who it was for anonymities sake- not only rejected it, but insulted it, saying it wasn't good etc. I no longer aspire to join your club, which I had admired up until this incident, and further, I used to read every issue of your publication, but will no longer read it... Again, I apologize for this and I wish your magazine luck. I am sorry to bring this to your attention, but I had wanted to join your club, so I had prepared a rough draft story for your magazine.
The problem is, when I showed it to a member of your club during
one of my classes, he/she-I do not want to specify who it was for anonymities sake- not only rejected it, but insulted it, saying it wasn’t
good etc.
I no longer aspire to join your club, which I had admired up until this
incident, and further, I used to read every issue of your publication, but will
no longer read it… Again, I apologize for this and I wish your magazine luck.

]]> By: Andy http://hscclub.net/2009/04/the-the-zine-volume-4-issue-7/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Andy Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:25:07 +0000 http://hscclub.net/?p=734#comment-16 Sorry about that, In the rush to publish some things didn't get finished correctly. It should now be on page 2. Thanks for the reminder I was able to correct several other mistakes as well! Sorry about that, In the rush to publish some things didn’t get finished correctly. It should now be on page 2. Thanks for the reminder I was able to correct several other mistakes as well!

]]> By: MaximillianJay http://hscclub.net/2009/04/the-the-zine-volume-4-issue-7/comment-page-1/#comment-15 MaximillianJay Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:18:40 +0000 http://hscclub.net/?p=734#comment-15 Do you happen to know where "Sour Grapes, Turned Mellow Cake" is? Do you happen to know where “Sour Grapes, Turned Mellow Cake” is?

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